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The 7 SEALS || The 7 Trumpets || Letters/Manuscrips || Christ Object Lessons

The Seven Seals - the uncertainties of the writers (scholars, historians and philosophers) is overloading

1. The great earthquake of the 6th seal may probably refer to the Lisbon Earthquake of 1775. The author or writer is not sure as you can see he is using the word "probably". But the Bible is clear, the great earthquake refers to the signs when probation has closed and God's wrath has come.

2. 7th seal silence in heaven for half an hour probably applies to the time when Jesus leaves heaven to appear in the sky and returns back to heaven with all the saints. In short it probably refers to the round trip travel of Jesus and angels with the saints from Heaven to sky and back to Heaven. Again, the author or write is very unsure as he again uses the term "probably". The word of God is clear, the silence in heaven is due to the preparation of the angels to blow the first trumpet and cast the first plague for the wicked.

3. 6th seal - The wicked will hide into the dens and the rocks of the mountains when Jesus appears in the sky. When Jesus appears in the sky, there will be no more mountains found. As described in the 7th plague, Revelation 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. If the wicked are to hide when Jesus appears, which mountains will they go when the Bible says the mountains were not found anymore at this time? Truth is, the 6th seal happens when probation closes and not when Jesus appears when the wicked realize that they are not saved and that the wrath of God has come (7 plagues). They can sense and understand that they are in trouble and that the plagues are coming for them. This time, the earthquake that will happen does not cause the mountains to disappear whereas the earthquake in the 7th plague makes the mountains to disappear as it is that great and had never ever happen int he history of mankind. That is why, when Jesus appears in the sky, all the wicked people will die and burn seeing the glory of God. They will have no moutains nor rocks to hide and therefore the consuming fire or the presence of Jesus will destroy them.

 

The Seven Trumpets - the uncertainties of the writers (scholars, historians and philosophers) is overloading. First of all, this booklet says is written by James White yet if you read the book, it is full of statements, remarks and quotes from philosophers, scholars and learned men like Mr Gibbon who was educated by the Roman catholic church and was also a skeptical philosopher and Mr Keith who wrote books that have the catholic fingerprints in them. The world also called him doctor and reverend which is a blasphemy against the Godhead in Heaven.

First trumpet - refers to the fall of Roman Empire which is the past but if you read the 7 trumpets, it aligns perfectly with the 7 last plagues. The hail and fire mingled with blood is being referred to the terrible effects of the Gothic invasion. But Scripture says the hail, fire mingled with blood are the means which those who receive the mark of the beast will get their noisome and grievous sore. Try to imagine chunks of ice and fire hitting your skin, this is just a tiny picture of what is really going to happen when the 1st plague is poured out. What makes it worse is that the writer, Mr Keith is not even sure of what he is saying thereby using the term "seems to refer". Another proof that the writer is not sure is that he used the phrase "may refer", again, another way of saying he is not really sure. To close the door shut, what these learned men and really saying is just their "commentary". They are not saying thus saith the Lord or inspired of the Holy Spirit. In short, they are speaking of their own words and not of God.

Second Trumpet - is being referred to the invasion and conquest of Africa which again happened in the past yet going through the description of the 2nd trumpet from the book of Revelation, it shows us that this is the description of what happens in the pouring out of the 2nd plague which is again a future event and not a historical past event.

Third Trumpet - instead of thus saith the Lord, another writer is commenting regarding this part. To prove his uncertainty, he said it can be "allusion" to the desolating wars and furius invasions of Atilla. If you check the word allusion, it is an indirect or passing reference to something. It is in short a vague or a blurry statement. A thus saith the Lord is not like that in this battle of Armageddon. The Lord's trumpet blows a certain and clear sound, not a sound of uncertainty and guessing.

1 Corinthians 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

Next, the writer wants to push a theory that this trumpet "may seem to refer to" something. Again, another unsure and uncertain statement.

Fourth Trumpet - supposedly, Elder James White took a portion of Mr Keith's writings regarding the 4th trumpet. The language of Mr Keith is the same as the language of the oberservers of the skies like NASA who had been known to be a bestfriend to the Vatican Observatory where they talk about asteroids, comets and meteors. Watch this video that exposes Comet Encke and learn how comets are but just fruits of these scientists imagination. There is no record of comets, meteors and asteroids in the Bible. We can only find the Sun, moon and the stars. You cannot use a philospher to interpret Biblical prophecies when he is only speaking like the learned men of this world.

Mr Keith further said that the thrones of ceasars had been for ages the sun of the world. In the prophetic symbolism, where can you find the sun being referred to the thrones of Ceasars? So far, the sun in Bible prophecy symbolizes Jesus (Sun of Righteousness) and the Gospel. Mr Keith si not speaking by a thus saith the Lord but thus saith the world. In his worldly education and learning, he got the idea that the sun refers to the throne of ceasars.

Mr Keith further declared that the sun in the 4th trumpet that was smitten was the sun of Rome being smitten. Again, if you study the 7 trumpets, it goes along with the 7 last plagues. The trumpets are God's judgments and recompense against those who received the mark, those who inflict pain and suffering to the people of God who refuse to receive the mark of the beast. The literal

During the 4th plague, the Sun will blast to the fullest heat index yet Mr Keith is supposing that the sun will appear to be paralyzed in its 1/3 part.

LETTERS AND MANUSCRIPTS

Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit - This supposed to be from Sister E. White is claiming that the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ. Thus saith the Lord, the 3rd Person Holy Spirit is not Jesus Christ. There are 3 that bear witness, the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit is Jesus Himself there should just be 2 that bear witness and not 3. Let us also understand that Jesus Christ is a God and has a Spirit which is also holy but His Spirit is NOT the 3rd Person. The 3rd Person Holy Spirit is self existent.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

For more Bible proof regarding the subject, pls visit this page: Godhead vs Trinity | Melchisedek

CHRIST OBJECT LESSONS - bearing the name of Christ, this book sounds very interesting for one who is searching for truth. A supposed Christian would think that this book is a pure compilation of the writings of sister E. White yet by the authority of the Scriptures, we will exposed the evil and toxic bread found in this book. After reading this exposition, you decide, is it worth promoting and sharing this book to the public as spiritual food for the unbelievers and believers? Choose you this day.

quicklinks: Open sinners must be separated from church but not judging characters and motives | harvest is close of probation | false brethren are called tares | tares cant be plucked because it endangers the precious grains

1. Christ has plainly taught that those who persist in open sin must be separated from the church, but He has not committed to us the work of judging character and motive. COL 71.3

This quote has 2 different things going on. First, open sin must be separated from the church . Second, the work of judging character and motive. Let us examine by thus saith the Lord as to what God has said regarding separating those in open sin and about judging character and motive.

First, it is true that Christ has taught us that those who persist in open sin must be separated from the church. He gave the process of Matthew 18 in order to restore the sinner to repentance. Should the sinner refuse to repent, he can be counted as heathen and publican as like those who once have the knowledge of truth yet refused to walk in it. God said, let them be but doesnt mean they can remain in the flock because doing so will contaminate the weak who are struggling so hard to walk. After the first and second steps are taken, the one who persists in open sin will have a chance to face the church and if he refuses to repent, he by his own choice has openly declared that he has separated himself from the flock. The separation from the open sinner from the church is his own choice. He has the choice to listen to God through His voice and if He chooses not to listen to God's voice then he himself has declared that he has given up and has separated himself from God's flock.

Matthew

step1 - 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
step 2 - 18:16 But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
step 3- 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell [it] unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.
18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Next, let us address what is stated regarding "but He has not committed to us the work of judging character and motive." The process of Matthew 18 or the separation of the open sinner from church has nothing to do with judging the character and motive. Open sin is open sin and has nothing to do with the church judging the motive or character of the open sinner. The judging of character and motive is liken to what Judas did. The 11 disciples could not judge him as a betrayer or that he has a motive to betray the Saviour UNTIL he openly by his fruits did betray the Saviour. Therefore, the 11 disciples were not committed the work of judging the character and motive of Judas even if they have seen some hints or clues. Neither did Jesus judge or condemn the character and motives of Judas. What was in the heart was hidden until the day came that Judas revealed what character he was and what motive he had. He himself condemn himself by choosing to betray God.

Therefore, the separation of the open sinner from the church has nothing to do with the church being the judge of the person's character or motive. Once the open sin is revealed, it is to be dealt with and dealing with open sin is not about judging the characer and motive. Dealing with the open sinner is for him to be restored. But when step 3 is accomplished and the open sinner refuses the voice of God through the church, he himself judged himself and has openly declared his true character and motive. So, when the open sinner is separated from church, it is not because the church has judge his character and motive. This quote from COL is basically saying you can separate the open sinner from the church but doing so is judging his character and motive. Therefore, just let him be and do nothing about it. The next quote tells the summary of what the above quote is trying to say.

2. Should we try to uproot from the church those whom we suppose to be spurious Christians, we should be sure to make mistakes. The tares and the wheat are to grow together until the harvest; and the harvest is the end of probationary time. { COL 71.3}

After addressing the open sinners must be separated from the church, this quote above says trying to uproot the spurious christians (tares) is a sure mistake. The true christians (wheat) and spurious christians (tares) must be together UNTIL the harvest and the harvest is the END OF PROBATIONARY TIME.

Hearing this, it means open sinners must remain in the church until close of probation. But thus saith the Lord, the open sinners has to decide using Matthew 18 steps 1 to 3.

Next, let us examine what wheat and tares and harvest mean.

A. Wheat - good seed or the incorruptible Word of God || children of God = The good seed or the incorruptible Word of God (the Truth) are accepted by His children. - Matthew 13:38, 1 Peter 1:23

B. Tares - bad seed or the corruptible lies of Satan || children of the devil = The bad seed or the corruptible seeds of Satan (the LIES) are accepted by His children. - Matthew 13:38, 1 Peter 1:23

C . Harvest - Matthew 13:39 ...the harvest is the end of the worldworld - 165 aion ahee-ohn'
from the same as 104; properly, an age; by extension, perpetuity (also past); by implication, the world; specially (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):--age, course, eternal, (for) ever(-more), (n-)ever, (beginning of the , while the) world (began, without end).

The end of the world is an end of a certain period or an age, not the destuction of the planet earth where it is defined as kosmos and not aion. So the end of the world is an end of a period of the Messiah where angels came to earth to start the process of the harvest. When we look at history, there was a period where the people of God received the messages of the angels that God had said that He will send forth to start the process of the harvest. This period was when the church of God experienced a great disappointment thinking that Christ was to come to earth in the year 1844. 

But looking at the quote again, it says the harvest is the end of probationary time but the harvest thus saith the Lord the harvest is not close of probation. The quote is basically saying that there has to be no separation between truth and error until the end of probation. It is saying that in the church, truth and error mix together and when end of probation comes that is when the truth and error will be divided. This is one of the biggest lies every preached by the so called spirit of prophecy. This is also one reason why the SDA's who understand that their church is in apostasy continue to stay inside due to this teaching that they have to stay there until end of probation.

Let us also consider the fact that some professed Sabbath keeping churches who are also lured into the same spirit of eating from so called Spirit or Prophecy also believe the same thing that the harvest is the close of probation. One example is the SDR Church of Nicholas Patula.

The wheat and tares must separate since the harvest has already started back in 1844.

3. As the tares have their roots closely intertwined with those of the good grain, so false brethren in the church may be closely linked with true disciples. COL 72.1

This quote is only true in the world and in the false church. The tares (false teachings or bad seed) are mixed with the wheat (God's people - good seeds). In God's church, there can be no tares (false teachings or members who are teaching lies and falsehood) that can closely entertwine with the good grains of wheat. All falsehood and lies are not allowed in God's true church. In God's church, the false brethren are those who received the truth yet have not been sanctified by it. They are called chaff and when the wind of trials and persecution come, they will blow with it because they have no kernels inside. They are not called tares for they have accepted the truth (good see).

Therefore, wheat and tares refer or apply to the world and the worldly church. Wheat and chaff apply to God's true church where we know that not everyone will make it to the end. The others will just eventually blow away.

Job 21:18 They are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth away.
Psalms 1:4 The ungodly [are] not so: but [are] like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

4. ...for the tares could not be plucked up without danger of uprooting the precious grain. And shall we not be as forbearing toward our fellow men as the Lord of heaven and earth is toward Satan? { COL 72.2}

After knowing thus saith the Lord regarding tares, wheat and harvest, we can see that God has commanded his people to separate from all apostasy (tares = false teachings). Revelation 18:4 is the loud cry of the other angel calling all of God's people to separate NOW and not at the end of probation. Any door for any tare (false teaching) to enter in must be barred at any cost. No tare is allowed to enter God's church for it will endanger the precious grains if allowed. False teachings corrupt the soul and one soul who will be contaminated by a false teaching will also contaminate another until many will be led astray.

God's forbearance towards Satan does not mean he is still allowed to enter heaven. He was disfellowshipped and was barred entry there. He is still live yet he and his sympathizers were already plucked out from heaven and are even sentenced to be forever doomed. God's church cannot forbear falsehoods and lies and those who preach them. They always get them in checked and not allowed entry into God's flock. This is why God set watchmen. They do not allow any entry for an enemy to plant a corruptible seed. God's forbearance inside His church is that we as brethren must continue to forbear our fellow brethren who have accepted the truth with us and allow them to grow up in the faith and not cast them out because they cannot walk properly as you.

Connecting the 2 sentences from the above quote, it means God's church should forbear Satan to enter into the church and plant false teachings and doctrines. It is saying God's church must forbear lies and falsehood from false prophets and teachers and just wait for close of probation to remove these lies. This is another trickery and witchcraft that Satan has led the laodicean churches to believe.

For more details about the wheat and tares and the chaff, pls see this: Wheat, Tares & Chaff (ssremnant.org)

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